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hmmm 1st date well there never the same diffrent things have happened with diffrent women. So i guess for a 1st date, well it depends who im with and what she's like? If she aint got a personality then she aint got my intrest if she has no humor then sorry grumpy ppl can steer well away from me. SORRY if this offends any 1 but i say it how it should be non of that crappy naff bull s**t |